How To Get Good At Deepwoken PvP (2024)

Thanks for not charging us with this one man. This is a great video

"ddont predict" as he uses predict

"dont miss parry"
"dont tilt"
"dont predict to not miss a parry"
"dont parry if theres nothing to parry"
"get good"

“Don’t play cheese” Lancelot members in chime storm cheesing and throwing bombs on salt chemist builds (top chime guild btw)

Thanks nogo, Due to your pvp tips I've finally beaten the Dagger bandit

2:54 probaly one of the best way to get rid of this habit if your a solo player is fighting a squibbo without cheese just parry trade a squibbo sometimes the squibbo will delay his m1 that way there’s no way you can predict it

Wow, playing lots of matches against players better than you really does seem like the best way to learn. It would be a shame if there were some system in place solely to discourage people from doing that...

Tips for the "react, don't predict" :
HAVE A GOOD SLEEP SCHEDULE

hella good info with the mindset and habits, hope ppl listen to these tips
+ pizza parry so comp 🔥😱

Only tip I have is that people should play the battle royale. It allows you to use, and fight, against a large variety of different weapons, mantras, and oaths. You get into many "unfair" fights, whether it's location, build RNG, or teaming etc. The fights are constant, which means you don't need to spend hours creating a build to just gank people in overworld or attempt chime matches, and risk wiping a slot repeatedly.

My biggest flaw is not sticking to one build, that's really important.

my main problem is i find it hard to read animations through all the visual effects

1 problem i have with "playing when its my turn" is that since everyone runs hold m1 when I feint they ALWAYS swing through it, I guess this is because they never have to let go of m1 for some reason.

now that chime skulls are removed its the best time to start improving

I would be in chime right now if skulls didn't exist.

Have you noticed other players in the comp scene have stopped reacting? Like they'll just sit there without parrying in reaction to your first attack and then parry your second attack.
If you question them about it they'll respond with, "I'm predicting your feint," which never made sense to me because if they were predicting your feint, wouldn't they just swing through instead of sitting there? Just something I noticed a lot of top 250s doing recently and I don't know what caused this brain rot playstyle of being unresponsive.

I went from top 250 to top 25000, thanks Nogo!

yeah nvm, stopped at the first step 😭 SA SERVERS WHEN

it’s so fun to not predict when you can’t see anything cuz of all the visual effects

finally subscribed to you
thank you for not just saying "practice" and elaborating on what you should do and what you should not do
keep it up nogo :)

Time to go on my training arc

I wish this was possible but you can’t even practice on one build because of the skull system it’s not hard to take 2 losses in a row or even 3 in any fighting game or fighting system and when you escape depths it’s like a 20 minute process to have the chance to play another game and get sent to depths again if Deepwoken removed skulls players would be significantly better at the game

thanks man i will try the parry with friend thing for sure

1:20 bro took "roll catcher" seriously

"remember to always be scaling higher than your opponent" is the coolest thing ive heard nogo say, followed by opm manga panel just fits so well

another thing is when you do lose don’t rage or let it take over you, everyone has lost a fight once and the best thing to do afterwards is summarize how you might’ve lost to them and learn from that mistake

0 to 40 ping is golden ping range for pvp
higher than 80 ping = laggy
meanwhlie in asia:always higher than 100ping (120 ping is average)

all brazilian player have 200-250 ping on Florida servers, and thats the best we can have..

Dont forget about roll cast and punishing feint

id love to get better at deepwoken but i live at the middle east so im always at the lower side of ping averaging 130 - 90 ping

Also, exercise, exercising can increase reaction time and focus, also make sure to get enough sleep so you can be at your most aware.

if you want to learn parrying
pvp as Silentheart

From what I've seen from PVP in this game is that it's the same as Dark Souls PVP (Not Elden Ring more specifically Dark Souls 1 as that is more to being skill vs skill despite how janky it REALLY is.)
Ping mattered the most for backstabbing opponents and just landing hits in general (big rabbit hole on that because DS1 was peer 2 peer connection)
Every build aimed to one shot or do as much damage as possible in one swing. Similar to how DW builds tend to be in all honesty.
Knowing how to use your build equally important to the fight itself.
Knowledge is also everything when fighting someone especially if their build is really cheesy.
Sorry for the ramble, the video is 10/10 explanation. Genuinely reminds me of old Dark Souls PVP days.

PIZZA PARRY

Nogo I just want you to know that you're the GOAT. Out of all the people in the competitive community in deep you were the one of the only ones not to be toxic and gatekeep, but decided to help others and the newer players that want to get better.

So what I'm hearing here is "don't lag". Well I failed that step. Every server I get in chime is on the opposite side on the US, so not much I can do in 100-150 ping.

"to be a good player need good ping"
me living in the south of Brazil with the average of 220 ping

the problem is reacting with 200 ping
why cant they put a single server in south america

Conclusion: if not my ping i would be top 1 godseeker for real

this was very helpful
also ik no one cares but im just writing this down to help myself acknowledge it more concretely
i realize now the main reason i am struggling to improve from mid 800s elo is probably the following 5 things (aside from my sh*tty spectrum wifi spikes)
1. i tilt way too easily - in real life i hardly ever get angry about anything and am generally very calm. because of this it was hard for me to realize i was tilting super hard whenever i lost which exasperated the following issues to a massive degree
2. i play too aggressively and very stupidly (probably the main issue) - whenever i get hit i tend to vent and try to immediately land an aerial into a very high damage block breaking mantra and then try to do a combo immediately and as a result i lose focus on my defense almost immediately after i get hit all the time, and i also tend to immediately vent again if i miss a vent when getting comboed rather than trying to just block parry dodge like an intelligent human being. on top of that i vent too much in general.
3. i do not take the time to learn how to utilize all the tools in my kits - i would consider myself to be a pretty decent builder in general but i do not know a lot about specific things about certain mantras because i learned most of my knowledge from other people who are already very good at building (i be in the deepwoken builder discord) and when i do not immediately understand how to use something i tend to stop using it entirely and it just rots in my hotbar (this specifically happens the most for me with gaze, revenge, and exhaustion strike)
4. i do not take the time to learn the best ways to utilize my builds - usually what happens is i prog a build, go in chime play like 15 matches and lose 10 of them, tilt super hard when i get sent to the depths, and then wipe to a group of depths gankers, broodlords, and squibbos and then go back to the silentheart coral cestus build that i use for a wide range of activites. i have a very strong jetstriker medium attunementless build i want to make my main build but i wiped in the previously described scenario after perma ignoring 2 of the mantras in reason 3 that i had on the build and now i have to reprog it
5. i play on a sh*tty ass old macbook air - i got a job recently and will be buying the starforge systems navigator pro so this will not be an issue for long.

im making a build thats ment to land heavy cheasy hits but it forces me to learn how to parry trade at the same time to get better with it. hope it works out for me

I need to stop predict parrying

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it's really sad that ping affects gameplay that much, i live in brazil and the closest server is in texas, so my ping is always above 160

My journey started with gripping newbies from the top of the maestros when they fought the npc.(I did it for luck)

That fit goes immeasurably hard wtf

Not saying this cuz i have a huge ego or anything, but i am the best player in my guild and practice against my guildmates doesnt do much for me.
I dont want to switch guilds because its the guild i made with friends when deepwoken first released.

Step one, use fists. That’s all.

When I do chime, im not worried about the elo. Its the skulls that I gotta grind back

Wow! Thank you Nogo! After watching this, I became a top 10 instantly!

Nogo is it truly over for me (since I have started playing since last year, I thought I was just a permafreshie, but it turns out I just have been averaging 150-400 ping)

Thanks nogo! Now I have to raid roblox's headquarters to be able to get 40 ping on my own servers instead of 200 for some odd reason!

This video is actually useful, goodjob on making it. 👍

im on 180 to 230 ping n a dream

"*You* lose because of *skill*, not *builds*."
Me matching up against a mage fire gun eruption path with crystallization (I am going to get zoned and eventually match up with this guy 2 other times after losing each match)

I used to play with shatterpoint and he taught me about air rolling and pre parrying and i lost those havbits i became was better i can say that learning to react instead is way way better

eh some of this is just like self explanatory lol, only way to get better at deepwoken is to watch players who are good or just play the game a lot.

i hear a peak ost in the intro

I always ask elo from the players that beat me. More than half are higher so it's almost always an uphill fight for me. But it's never by a little bit, it usually always by a lot. Almost always a 100-200 elo gap. I'm 700-800.

I live in canada and will never understand how they got no mf servers for us but got servers in like the depths of india and france that only like 6 people use at a time.

Remove chime skulls and I’ll actually play

Thank you nogo, i can now enter the cladrum state

thank you nogo thanks to you we can all get better at Deepwoken, we love you nogo !

step 1: stop watching the video and go practice pvp 👍

Sometimes, i see my parries not working against judgement (i could literally see the parry anim btw)

I cant practice because I always get sent into the depths after 3 fights

this restored my faith in believing that i can be a god with 200 avg ping 🙏

Wow thanks ! with your tips i was able to hit top 250!

Thank you nogo, i am now top 10 in chime

How im suposed to react and not predict against a dagger user if im 150ms im my best servers?

Nogo w post like always

what the f*ck am i supposed to do if my regiond oesnt have servers

Switched my mindset from "i can't win due to ping 120"
To "im too Bad to play with 120"
All good but still, can't react, have to predict.

150 ping and 47 fps, take it or leave it

my wifi is so ass :( i get

thank you nogo i 5 barred everyone in this game now!

"deepwoken is skill vs skill" yeah wait until shattered katana silentl heart arrives

"I need coaching lessons from lancelot 🤓" only to realize you'll still get your ass absolutely beat by players not stuck perma white name

Still waiting for that soulthorn video

Love it when nogo tells me to literally travel all the way to the US to get better ping (im literally in brazil where there are NO GOOD SERVERS)

how do i not hold s 😭

Yo nogo u think u can make a feint guide? I feel like I need to feint more to get to the next level of pvp

better than "your trash" thumbnails

bro showed clips of clearly missing their parry and dodging while still in block frames (apparently its just delay and not them missing their parry and being punished for it)

Good video. 1 more tip tho, if u want to get top 250 and above JUST PLAY ICE

Me literally being called hacker just cuz i parried more than them did with 300 ms

was looking good till bro said “find any friend”😭they don’t have the 5 bucks 😩😩😩

How dont predict with brazilian ping(200 ping💀)

Ain't no way i average 100-120 ping bruh 😢

If you dont have 4 bars of ping close the video and find another game

aint no way its ping based game nah my ping is 200 fps is 50 for 5 sec then go to the 45 😭😭😭😭

Yeah bro, I already failed step 1
my maximum fps is 40 (minimized screen) (1 graphics bar quality)

How good pvp
Step: find good Ping
Me : •-•

so if i play 140 ms in my best servers im cooked skill capped my king glorious nano sheepandskeepskin

pls pizza parry guide

BOO! did i scare you? I'm a job application.

W hollow knight music

i have no friends

Aint no way im training my parry with pizzas 😰😰😰😰😰

mmmmmmmkay but im already the best??